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Post by _ on Jun 14, 2012 19:37:24 GMT -6
It seems that there is an outcry over what has become of this place, for the few people who take it seriously. So be it. I will be taking back the reins and leading this forum into a new era of on-topicness.
To that effect:
1.) Spam Board(s) will be removed. Any nonsense you have to spew you can do so in IMs, Skype, or other forums. Not here. 2.) Spam posts will be removed. Pacing here is slow enough that I should be able to keep up with it. 3.) Mario Paint discussion only except in the (soon to be created) Other General Discussion board.
If you don't wish to abide by these rules and guidelines, you aren't welcome here.
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Post by JohnFreeman on Jun 14, 2012 19:49:23 GMT -6
First order of business: adblock that enormous banner image
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bally
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Post by bally on Jun 14, 2012 19:51:30 GMT -6
I'll just get rid of 'em put back the old ones, it's a piece of cake
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Post by GuitarMaster72 on Jun 14, 2012 21:47:46 GMT -6
This is actually all I ever wanted... will it work though is the question
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Post by RehdBlob on Jun 15, 2012 2:24:46 GMT -6
All hail EL GATO GRANDE
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Post by Mr. Sub on Jun 15, 2012 10:26:16 GMT -6
Nice to see us back in English again! Am I being blind or has the Video Game Hacking board been removed?
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Post by eataninja on Jun 18, 2012 11:53:40 GMT -6
People still take the MPH seriously? I mean, come on guys, I stopped taking it seriously.
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Post by GuitarMaster72 on Jun 18, 2012 13:07:49 GMT -6
The only reason I still take it seriously is cuz I wasn't around when MPC was first started, so I'm not sick of the program yet, but everyone else (besides a certain few) seems to be.
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Post by RehdBlob on Jun 18, 2012 13:18:16 GMT -6
Personally I've always really liked the MPC concept, so I've kept going as best as I could. The frequency of my releases seems to be going down slightly though, though the frequency wasn't really high to begin with.
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Post by bally on Jun 18, 2012 14:23:17 GMT -6
the novelty of mpc is over for the most part, but there's still so much ground to cover if people would bother doing things that haven't been attempted or even remotely thought of
everyone considers themselves too exhausted for a huge feat, yet seeing others get to those breakthroughs that end up completely revolutionizing what people actually think of this program is what kept mario paint alive for so long
i still don't get why there aren't any heroes left making those breakthroughs
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Post by tommy73 on Jun 18, 2012 14:59:38 GMT -6
what really motivates me to mpc (and i'm sure some other people would too) is MPC being alive in general. back in september 2010 lots of MPCs were being made here and there and seeing all these cool mpcs really got me to make some as well, seeing how mpc was(is kinda) loved alot and given its popularity.
what ticks me of though is i kinda got here at the wrong time, and once i though i improved like, a massive ton (2012), mpc became really shallow, or rather was already shallow (started in second half 2011). i would wish i discovered the trick much earlier, but surely i wouldn't since i would be.... 11 years old and i'm sure i wasn't very interested in music that time... the time where mpc looked so full and happy. damn i missed alot.
hell though, there's still a dozen songs and ideas that i wanna do, it just that i didn't have the patience/skill to do most of the songs back then. i think i can now, but now the community and mpc has really faded alot more, so its harder to get motivation.
.....hmmmm. if you want a hero, i'll be more than happy to be one, just give me a sec.
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Post by eataninja on Jun 18, 2012 16:10:46 GMT -6
What the MPH needs is either: a) a version of AMS that isn't a pain in the ass to move b) a better MPC trainer that makes the exploits of the MPC engine easier to pull off or c) a new version of MPC that fixes v2's problems and adds new features
From there the MPH could go in a few ways, now that stagnation has ended: a) Discussion could focus on both MPC and other programs, like FL Studio and Famitracker b) Skype can be kept for social/spam chat. Serious General Chat could be moved to a separate part of the forum, now that the community is more actively engaged in the forum c) Popularity would increase and membership would grow, allowing the older, more stagnant members to be replaced with new members.
Once the forum grows again, we could have a legitimate mod structure again and maybe consider moving to a less limited host, but honestly this is all "what if" thinking. Either someone is going to innovate, or the forum is going to slowly die, and with it, the community. The Skype chat can't sustain itself without the community because of who hates who (which is another discussion in and of itself that I'd like to avoid), and the YouTube community will lose popularity and die out with stagnation. I'm already seeing it happen, and it will happen at a faster rate unless someone reverses these trends.
If I could program, I would create a new MPC. I want to learn to code one day, but it would be months before I would be able to finish something usable. And I know that many of you have neither the time nor motivation to create something usable. That's part of the problem :/
As for me, I'm bored. I want to move on to other things, and without a stable community, I'm not motivated to poke my head back here often. Tiger, your intentions are great, but this board was more ALIVE in the past few months. Crazy, broken, and spammy, yes, and the whole French thing went on for FAR too long, but there was a silliness here that I haven't seen in over a year. Was it out of control? Yes. But taking it away isn't the solution either. Something else needs to happen to shift us away from the spam. To keep the light saide of the forums, but to maintain the focus that we once had. I just don't know what it will be.
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Post by GuitarMaster72 on Jun 18, 2012 18:06:39 GMT -6
I'm deeply disappointed in the administration here. I feel like I'm just being left out here and nobody respects me (to those that do, I thank you). I thought we could be a friendly community that treat each other almost like family, but a civil war has separated us into like 3 different groups: The haters/trolls, the active MPCers, and the ones who don't even give a fuck. If it wasn't for Jamie, I'd still be banned here for the most dumbass reason I've ever heard of. The reason given I don't even think was the real reason; I'm pretty sure it was just cuz administrators here hated me.
I should just quit... srsly, the only satisfaction that ever comes from my songs or my involvement in the community is from me showing my friends or very few people in the community. it's almost like I'm making songs for myself now, and if so, what's the point in uploading any of them? My friend Jordan is right, pursuing this much longer is not getting me anywhere in life.... I should pick up a new hobby like.... art. or like continue doing speedruns or some shit... cuz honestly... it just kinda feels like it's not worth trying anymore :/. I mean just take a look. Song of the Week is gone. Community Compositions (well the VG medleys anyways) have been dormant for months. The "Releases" thread is touched like once every 2 weeks...... which almost seems like the most active thread at this point (set aside threads that complain about shitty things like the whole french fiasco).
I'll still linger around to see how this goes... but I don't have high hopes for this place to pick up from it's current dumpster.
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Post by eataninja on Jun 18, 2012 18:29:55 GMT -6
To add on to what GM said, I understand that some people on the forums are a little naive and eccentric but some of you guys are MEAN. And there's no reason why we need 3-4 chats because we don't like some people.
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Post by RehdBlob on Jun 18, 2012 18:52:27 GMT -6
What the MPH needs is either: a) a version of AMS that isn't a pain in the ass to move b) a better MPC trainer that makes the exploits of the MPC engine easier to pull off or c) a new version of MPC that fixes v2's problems and adds new features If I could program, I would create a new MPC. I want to learn to code one day, but it would be months before I would be able to finish something usable. And I know that many of you have neither the time nor motivation to create something usable. That's part of the problem :/ That was actually one of my projects, and MPCTxtTools was a stepping stone to making a better MPC. However, I don't know how long it would take, and given my ridiculous schedule this fall, it's unlikely it would ever happen until 2013.
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Post by lih on Jun 18, 2012 18:53:12 GMT -6
i think everyone is pretty happy with the current skype situation lol people can talk to who they want to, just because we all at some point had something to do with mario paint doesn't mean we should all be in one stupid chat group where no one gets along
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Post by bigbowsa on Jun 18, 2012 18:53:36 GMT -6
And there's no reason why we need 3-4 chats because we don't like some people. PEOPLE TRY TO AVOID TALKING TO PEOPLE THEY DISLIKE!? HOLY FUCKINGSHIT
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Post by eataninja on Jun 18, 2012 19:02:23 GMT -6
And there's no reason why we need 3-4 chats because we don't like some people. PEOPLE TRY TO AVOID TALKING TO PEOPLE THEY DISLIKE!? HOLY FUCKINGSHITThat fact that you made an account just to post that makes me lol so hard XD I know I've harped on that a few times and I should stop because I realize more that it's a personal thing with me. Why? I don't know, it's just always been that way for me, I guess. (That's also a side effect of actually trying to defend GM )
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Post by bally on Jun 18, 2012 19:55:49 GMT -6
I'm deeply disappointed in the administration here. I feel like I'm just being left out here and nobody respects me (to those that do, I thank you). I thought we could be a friendly community that treat each other almost like family, but a civil war has separated us into like 3 different groups: The haters/trolls, the active MPCers, and the ones who don't even give a fuck. If it wasn't for Jamie, I'd still be banned here for the most dumbass reason I've ever heard of. The reason given I don't even think was the real reason; I'm pretty sure it was just cuz administrators here hated me. I should just quit... srsly, the only satisfaction that ever comes from my songs or my involvement in the community is from me showing my friends or very few people in the community. it's almost like I'm making songs for myself now, and if so, what's the point in uploading any of them? My friend Jordan is right, pursuing this much longer is not getting me anywhere in life.... I should pick up a new hobby like.... art. or like continue doing speedruns or some poo... cuz honestly... it just kinda feels like it's not worth trying anymore :/. I mean just take a look. Song of the Week is gone. Community Compositions (well the VG medleys anyways) have been dormant for months. The "Releases" thread is touched like once every 2 weeks...... which almost seems like the most active thread at this point (set aside threads that complain about shitty things like the whole french fiasco). I'll still linger around to see how this goes... but I don't have high hopes for this place to pick up from it's current dumpster. how imbecelic and unprogressive of you to decide this would be the best time to bring up your egocentric whines as if that's the root of any problem with keeping a community alive. i understand that a lot of people try to knock you down, but complaining about it in such a narcissistic way only brings everyone that bothers to read what you type down with you. your social misfit dilemma is something i hardly care for and i wish you wouldn't try to make it seem like it should be a big deal to us. because it isn't. you need to find a new resolve if you don't understand the point of doing mpc if you're only making them for yourself. either that, or kindly make your way.
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Post by GuitarMaster72 on Jun 18, 2012 20:27:29 GMT -6
I'm sick and tired of being taken advantage of and treated like I'm 5 years old. I'm sorry if I came off as narcissistic, but goddammit.... you guys just gotta know when to stop, it's not funny, cuz I'm not laughing. The biggest reason why I looked so egocentric, is cuz I'm pretty much the biggest target (if not, please tell me someone else who is being harrassed more... Kev? SNG?). idfk why you guys hate me so much, but I just want you to know that I'm not feeling welcome, and I just wanna know why the hell I'm hated so much here. It's just gotten to the point where I'm considering resignation.
Do YOU have hope for this community? if so, why do you horse around so much? If you're yelling at me for discouraging any hopes to bring the community back, then you shouldn't make it look like you care less than I do, or you'd just look hypocritical.
Again, sorry for the narcissism.... I'm just really pissed off right now, and wanted to just express how I really feel, cuz I just believed that nobody really knew....
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