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Post by Admin on Jun 13, 2009 9:49:37 GMT -6
Do not make requests for soundfonts on this board any longer, or anywhere else. PM a member who you think will be willing to assist you personally. No skill is truly shown if you have a soundfont custom-made to include the instruments you need for a particular song -- most of the difficulty in using Mario Paint Composer or Advanced Mario Sequencer is in working around limits presented by an otherwise unfitting set of instrumentation, or in learning how to use the toold properly to make your own.
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Post by superiorlarxene on Jun 13, 2009 11:30:18 GMT -6
Do not make requests for soundfonts on this board any longer, or anywhere else. PM a member who you think will be willing to assist you personally. No skill is truly shown if you have a soundfont custom-made to include the instruments you need for a particular song -- most of the difficulty in using Mario Paint Composer or Advanced Mario Sequencer is in working around limits presented by an otherwise unfitting set of instrumentation. I agree. |
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Post by winterbourne2k on Jun 13, 2009 17:08:28 GMT -6
I would agree, unless it's a song where you're really picky about it, and the limitations of the pre-set soundfont aren't enough, otherwise you can take up any challenge you want if you're into that kind of composing.
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Post by DJ Banned on Jun 13, 2009 18:25:09 GMT -6
most of the difficulty in using Mario Paint Composer or Advanced Mario Sequencer is in working around limits presented by an otherwise unfitting set of instrumentation, or in learning how to use the toold properly to make your own. Ah... |
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Post by Rusty on Jun 13, 2009 18:46:03 GMT -6
But you forgot...
What I think he's trying to say is that a person shouldn't be making specific requests just so that they have the instruments they need. Either learn how to make the soundset themselves (like Tiger did) or just use one of the pre-existing ones. Making your own soundset is a challenge in itself. XD Just ask anyone who's made one.
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Post by bally on Jun 13, 2009 19:36:58 GMT -6
Making your own soundset is a challenge in itself. XD Just ask anyone who's made one.  |
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Post by DJ Banned on Jun 13, 2009 19:54:11 GMT -6
I never said it wasn't a daunting task. It's just slightly hypocritical I guess. |
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Post by Rusty on Jun 13, 2009 20:03:31 GMT -6
I never said it wasn't a daunting task. It's just slightly hypocritical I guess. Meh, I can see where you're coming from. I was just saying that Tiger actually made his MMX soundset, and did the song by ear, so it was still a challenge for him, as opposed to someone who has someone else make the custom soundset for them, and then does the song easy. ^^ |
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Post by Gallahaut on Jun 15, 2009 20:13:06 GMT -6
Hm... I don't have a problem with soundfont requests... but then again, I don't use MPC because it's MPC and has limitations. I use it quite honestly because I'm able to get better sound quality than Sibelius 5. As soon as I find a convenient, easy-to-use program that has good sound quality and doesn't cost any money, I don't think I'd be using MPC much anymore.... (afterall, when I first found MPC, I haven't been using Sibelius much anymore... except for homework XD).
...that and it's so much fun to put a cat or a dog on a treble clef and call it music! ;D
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Post by AbsoluteZero255 on Jun 21, 2009 2:31:30 GMT -6
"No skill is shown" ?
I do not believe that statement very much, because of a few examples:
Friedfischer showed skill in his MK64 Rainbow Road. I probably couldn't've done that, especially by ear.
Same with your very own gravity beetle
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Post by kacelano on Jun 21, 2009 6:46:03 GMT -6
Well that depends on who you ask  |
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Post by Admin on Jun 21, 2009 8:48:12 GMT -6
Problem with all of you citing Gravity Beetle: I MADE the soundfont. On my own. I didn't run out and beg someone to do it for me -- actually, I did, but then I actually decided I would be better served to simply learn for myself.
See, the problem is that when I say "it requires no skill," you all just stop there and start tossing videos at me; you ignore my extension of the point, "... when you the EXACT sounds you need." It is different when a person does it for him or herself, but when we have threads with a laundry list of instruments and the thread starter goes, "Okay, make this," it's unfair to people who do take the time and effort to create song-specific soundfonts for themselves (public-release ones like Cat's or Satoshi's are not specific to any song).
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Post by AbsoluteZero255 on Jun 21, 2009 10:46:35 GMT -6
Problem with all of you citing Gravity Beetle: I MADE the soundfont. On my own. I didn't run out and beg someone to do it for me -- actually, I did, but then I actually decided I would be better served to simply learn for myself. See, the problem is that when I say "it requires no skill," you all just stop there and start tossing videos at me; you ignore my extension of the point, "... when you the EXACT sounds you need." It is different when a person does it for him or herself, but when we have threads with a laundry list of instruments and the thread starter goes, "Okay, make this," it's unfair to people who do take the time and effort to create song-specific soundfonts for themselves (public-release ones like Cat's or Satoshi's are not specific to any song). Ah, now I understand. I do agree with you now. ... |
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Post by TFinn04 on Jun 21, 2009 18:49:12 GMT -6
Perhaps we could at least have a thread or something where we can post our ideas for non-song-specific soundfonts. Personally, I'd like to see a Windows XP sounds soundset, but I don't have the technichal knowledge or attention span to figure out Vienna for myself. I agree that soundfonts tailored to a specific song should not be requested, but I feel a soundfont ideas thread or whatever where one could post ideas for a public-release soundfont based on a certain theme would be very useful for those who can't make soundfonts to save their lives. Like me.
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Post by bally on Jun 22, 2009 9:36:11 GMT -6
Now that I think about it, making a soundfont doesn't take much talent or brains. It just takes patience and anyone can learn how to do it. |
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Post by Gallahaut on Jun 23, 2009 15:55:24 GMT -6
I guess for the most part I agree that requesting song-specific soundfonts can be unfair to those who make them themselves... however, I don't mind people requesting instruments, samples, etc... Like, I could really go for an authentic choir ahh sample, but I haven't been able to find any... I think it would be acceptable to "request" this or ask other members for advice to find it.
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Post by AnimePickle on Aug 26, 2010 1:45:23 GMT -6
No skill is truly shown if you have a soundfont custom-made to include the instruments you need for a particular song -- most of the difficulty in using Mario Paint Composer or Advanced Mario Sequencer is in working around limits presented by an otherwise unfitting set of instrumentation, or in learning how to use the toold properly to make your own. No skill is truly shown if you have a program custom-made to include the instruments you need without learning to write music yourself -- most of the difficulty in writing music is in learning music theory and how to read music, or in learning how to use an advanced music program properly to make your own. |
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Post by Youne on Aug 26, 2010 15:47:01 GMT -6
No skill is truly shown if you have a soundfont custom-made to include the instruments you need for a particular song -- most of the difficulty in using Mario Paint Composer or Advanced Mario Sequencer is in working around limits presented by an otherwise unfitting set of instrumentation, or in learning how to use the toold properly to make your own. No skill is truly shown if you have a program custom-made to include the instruments you need without learning to write music yourself -- most of the difficulty in writing music is in learning music theory and how to read music, or in learning how to use an advanced music program properly to make your own. Wait what? |
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Post by Pokésonic on Aug 26, 2010 16:10:13 GMT -6
First off, this thread was dead. Secondly:
We are NOT going to start this age-old topic again. The whole 'MPC is such an inferior program' crap. It's not about if MPC is inferior or not. It's about WHY we use MPC. To me, MPC has always been easy to pick up and use. And you know why else I use it? BECAUSE IT'S FUN. What's the point of doing/using something if you're not gonna have fun doing/using it?
You may find there are a few exceptions to that, one of them being me. I don't know a thing about music theory and I've been MPCing for 2 1/2 years. ENTIRELY BY EAR, might I add. I really don't care for technicalities with music, 'cuz it drains the fun of MPCing to me.
I think I've made my point. Feel free to point out anything you disagree with and PM me about it. Otherwise, good day.
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Post by kacelano on Aug 26, 2010 17:10:50 GMT -6
Alrighty then, I'll just go ahead and lock this now to end further argument and disputes. AnimePickle, you are obviously new here and to MPC in general. I suggest that you learn a bit more about "MPC theory".
At any rate, a lot of us know least basic (at the very least) music theory, play an instrument, and are capable of creating works of our own.
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