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Post by nolimits on Oct 24, 2010 14:52:47 GMT -6
Is there any good method for doing triplets in MPC? The few times I've had to (in some unfinished songs) I have sped the tempo up a lot in order for me to closely replicate the timing of a "triplet". Is there a better method? I would be curious to know because I want to do a certain song in MPC but it is filled with triplets.
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Post by kacelano on Oct 24, 2010 15:19:47 GMT -6
multiply the tempo you'd use otherwise for 8ths and 16th by 3 and start counting. there isn't an easy way to do this.
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Post by Smario32 on Oct 24, 2010 15:21:08 GMT -6
Multiplying the tempo by 3 (or a multiple of it) gives exact triplets. The only problem is figuring out the math for the note placement.
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Post by RehdBlob on Oct 24, 2010 18:25:52 GMT -6
You could probably multiply the base tempo by 6, but then you'll have to worry about the mathematics of note placement.
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Post by Savvn on Oct 25, 2010 6:49:06 GMT -6
Yeah, I just use a tempo of 2000+ to get the precise timing of each note in the triplet. If there's not alot of triplets then that can be easiest. If the whole song is a swing rhythm then maybe it's easier to multiply the tempo like everyone else said.
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Post by nolimits on Oct 26, 2010 18:35:32 GMT -6
Yeah pretty much the whole song is made up of them. I don't think I feel like bothering with it
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Post by beefjerky26 on Mar 16, 2011 1:22:42 GMT -6
You can also use 3/4 and make the tempo fast enough that the notes in each measure is perceived as an 8th or 16th note triplet, then the last note in each 3/4 measure and the first in the next would equal a shuffle beat. SO taking what they said before, if you want 16ths on every beat and your beat is 140, then times it by 4 to get 560. If you want triplets at 140 bpm, then switch to 3/4 and times 140 by 3, to get 420. It's perceived as the same tempo. MATH, I know, music is math.
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Post by Meldan on Mar 19, 2011 8:02:08 GMT -6
MATH, I know, music is math. That's why I like Math AND music XD
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Post by Gallahaut on Mar 19, 2011 17:43:56 GMT -6
You can also use 3/4 and make the tempo fast enough that the notes in each measure is perceived as an 8th or 16th note triplet, then the last note in each 3/4 measure and the first in the next would equal a shuffle beat. SO taking what they said before, if you want 16ths on every beat and your beat is 140, then times it by 4 to get 560. If you want triplets at 140 bpm, then switch to 3/4 and times 140 by 3, to get 420. It's perceived as the same tempo. MATH, I know, music is math. Yeah, if the whole piece is triplets, just use the 3/4 feature. The not only can you have triplets, but you can implement three against four capabilities by simply doubling the tempo (unless the tempo is already fast enough). Your other option of course is to just ignore the measure lines and pretend they don't exist by using whatever unit of length as your triplet. The measures won't line up, so the only thing you have to watch for is transitioning to another file.
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Post by torjuz on Dec 26, 2011 17:09:15 GMT -6
Triplets are easy to make, if you know how. Explaning this isn't easy, so I'll try my best. If you are making a song and using like many others, a whole bar = 4 bars in MPC (1 beat per bar). Then, triplets are made by putting instruments, two away from each other. Here is a picture, that might help a little. Also, the Triplets are triplets of a Crotchet / Quarter note. If you need others, try to use the same technique. Picture - filesmelt.com/dl/help24.pngOne Thumb rule - A triplet is always a 1/4 shorter then the original format the triplets where made on. (A Quaver triplet is 12/16 or 6/8. Don't forget that the next triplet will fall on the 8/8 and not 9/8.) Hope I helped
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Post by brianLED on Dec 27, 2011 0:05:47 GMT -6
Triplets are easy to make, if you know how. Explaning this isn't easy, so I'll try my best. If you are making a song and using like many others, a whole bar = 4 bars in MPC (1 beat per bar). Then, triplets are made by putting instruments, two away from each other. Here is a picture, that might help a little. Also, the Triplets are triplets of a Crotchet / Quarter note. If you need others, try to use the same technique. Picture - filesmelt.com/dl/help24.pngOne Thumb rule - A triplet is always a 1/4 shorter then the original format the triplets where made on. (A Quaver triplet is 12/16 or 6/8. Don't forget that the next triplet will fall on the 8/8 and not 9/8.) Hope I helped Torjuz, that picture isn't exactly a triplet. It's a dotted quarter note, dotted quarter note, quarter note rhythm, which is an entirely different (though still cool) thing. I'm going to have to stretch the screen a little to show this, but here are two different pictures of triplets in MPC. In both of these, the mushroom represents a quarter note, the Marios are 8th notes, and the flowers are the triplets: img843.imageshack.us/img843/1671/tripletsmpc.pngimg507.imageshack.us/img507/1499/tripletsmpc2.pngIn the first example, the triplets occur on the downbeats of 4/4 time. This way is handy if you're working in 3/4 time since the eighth notes occur on the downbeat of every odd measure of 3/4 time. It's also handy if you need to switch between eighth notes and triplets often. In addition, this way allows for the lowest tempo possible while also having eighth notes, triplets, and sixteenth notes occur on some downbeat of either 3/4 or 4/4 time. (Sixteenth notes occur on every downbeat of 3/4 time.) In the second example, the triplets occur on the odd numbers of 3/4 time, and the eighth notes occur on every (3n+1)rd measure. (1, 4, 7, 10, 13, etc.). This way is handy because you don't need to switch in and out of 3/4 time -- both eighth notes and triplets occur on numbered downbeats. It's also handy if you need to break the five-note-per-vertical-line limit because, unlike the previous example, if you have to put notes in the space after the eighth note/triplet, they would still clearly sound like they belong in that eighth note/triplet. However, notice that this way does not allow for the sixteenth notes to be placed perfectly evenly, however the tempo will probably be fast enough that that little bit of muddiness is inconsequential. Both ways have their pros and cons, and I've used both before. If your piece is in compound meter like 6/8 but has eighth note duplets, you're probably not going to need to divide duplets into sixteenth notes, so I would probably recommend the second option. However, if your piece is mostly in simple meter like 4/4 but has eighth note triplets, you're more likely to need even sixteenth notes, so I would probably recommend the first option unless you want to use either a large amount of notes or different dynamics of notes (i.e. break the five-note-per-vertical-line limit). If that is the case, you might want to consider using the first option but doubling the tempo to allow room for these additional notes/dynamics to occur. Anyway, those are my thoughts on the matter. This topic is a little old, but good luck!
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Post by nolimits on Jan 28, 2012 14:15:41 GMT -6
I hadn't check this thread in awhile, and I'm surprised to see so many comprehensive answers! Thanks a lot everyone who gave their ideas.
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